The more immediate the consequences, the more trustworthy the behavior.

They are going to have to find immediate work, immediate housing, immediately get their kids into school and that probably will change the demographics of the region.

People can sort of put it off, and it’s not confronting you day-to-day in an immediate sort of way. The consequence of inaction can be enormous, but I think it’s one of those issues where...

I think when you first start out, you’re writing books that are about your immediate place.