I’m not against increasing the minimum wage. It’s just that I don’t think we have sufficient information to get it through the Senate and the House. It’s hard to go to legislators with inconclusive data.

We really need to find out, No. 1, the characteristics of these people, and No. 2, how many of them are earning minimum wage and accessing public assistance.

The poverty here is real, there’s absolutely no doubt about it. If you can help them gradually take those steps out of poverty, you’re going to fix many things.