What I presented to board was inconsistent with what was going on at EBS.

I don’t know the exact number. I’m saying I don’t know the number of employees.

No. The reality was, we were cutting people across the board because our cost structure was too high.

The toll we’re taking on families is pretty heavy.

I’m not positive if he was on the plane, but I remember having this discussion with him very near to the March 15 meeting.

All I remember is it was more like a ship. It was a big boat you could put cars on and maybe a helicopter.

I felt so much pressure to make our quarterly earnings.

No, I didn’t want to talk about that.

One more hit of crack cocaine on these earnings. I felt we were so addicted to our quarterly earnings that we were selling our future revenue potential.

It looked goofy to me.

You’re standing outside Fort Knox with billions of dollars inside. The only problem is how are you going to get it out.