I think he has done quite well. A lot of times he could have done better. He has been hesitant.

We are seeing a conservative high tide which is a reaction to several things, but a common view that Muslim liberals have taken things too far.

People are more self-consciously Islamic but it doesn’t mean anyone is saying … we should make Indonesia an Islamic state.

Very few graduates have that combination of skills … many students are shying away from language courses and travelling to places like Indonesia or Malaysia because of the terror warnings.

The wounds from the East Timor crisis are still very apparent in Indonesia and it’s one of the things that makes Papua so sensitive — the fear that Australia will do an East Timor with...