What you’re seeing is revealing weaknesses in the state, local and federal levels. All three levels have been weakened. They’ve been weakened by diversion into terrorism.

It’s going to be bad. I have to believe this one [recovery operation] will be larger than Andrew. We’re talking about a very intense three- to five-year recovery operation.

A lot of good was done, but it just wasn’t finished. I don’t know if it would have saved more lives. It would have made the response faster. You might say it would have saved...

FEMA can be turned around. But I don’t think it can be turned around within Homeland Security.