Probably after Vietnam and Watergate, there was an increasing distrust of institutions, so that Jesus was still in, but the institutional church was no longer an attraction. So, I think that the dropping of the...

It removes the preacher from the community, … and I’ve got some problem with that. Ministry requires an ongoing dialogue with the community.

I think what we are seeing is the detribalizing of Protestantism, in that if you have a large external constituency, which would identify culturally or historically with a particular denomination, then obviously it’s a plus...

You’ve got to find ways of being heard within that context, … But we shouldn’t get angry or try to reclaim the past.

The idea that you are at the centre of society, you’re a foundational institution, there’s been a move away from that, … I think the church is struggling to regain that, which in my personal...